Hartmut Kristen: Porsche's 24/7 Man of Motion
InterestingÖ the one question I wanted to ask I completely forgot to bring up. Was
being the head of worldwide motorsports for the most successful sports car
company in history something he thought he would be doing one day. Or want to
be doing for that matter. Hartmut Kristen has a handle on the job and is aware of a
landscape that is mined with setbacks but also rich with rewards. After a difficult
start with the initial RS Spyder project, Kristen has quietly made the LMP2 class
the main show for the 2007 season of the ALMS by upping the ante and the
promise of increased competition courtesy of other manufacturers. And here are a
few of Kristen's thoughtsÖ Kerry Morse
KM: Tell me about the new building in Weissach Flacht. How has that increased
productivity and what exactly is going on these days ?
HK: In Flacht we have reconstructed all the buildings inside of the original
workshop building, so we have a new warehouse with office space included for all
our workers. They are highly involved in service for the Super Cup and Carrera
Cup. We have a second building where we store our trucks and special
equipment for testing different projects. In the building that was previously used as
the warehouse we now have our assembly for the GT3RSR and also the RS
Spyder. We also have an entire new office building with offices for up to 120
engineers and all the organizational staff.
KM: In the past a number of engineers were located up in the towers at Weissach.
Have you been able to centralize by moving some of those engineers down to the
new facility in Flacht?
HK: Yes, we never had an opportunity to run that may projects until now. A lot of
them werenít even in Weissach but somewhere else. So bringing everybody
much closer together, specifically that close to the workshop, that really has
helped. The logistics coming from the workshops and the parts, are much more
efficient. Everybody working on a project can cooperate and work together. It is so
much better with so many so much closer. Compared to in the past, that already
has made a big difference.
KM: So instead of having to get on the telephone to call somebody you can just
walk down the hall and see them now.
HK: Yes, and itís also much easier if you have something that doesnít work
properly within two minutes everyoneís there to look at it. Rather than having to set
up a time to look at it and have someone come in the next day it gets done much
KM: With regards to having four RS Spyders, with possibly a fifth one, for the
ALMS, do you have enough cars for the 2007 season, or are you hoping that one
or two other teams step up later on in the season as a prep for the 2008 season?
HK: There is an opportunity for a sixth car late in the season that might run during
one of the final races, but I would say the five cars from Porsche for the beginning
is quite sufficient for the ALMS with twice as many cars as last year. On the other
hand, we have significantly more cars to support. Just yesterday had the test with
the second car for Dyson out at Willow Springs and it worked without any
problems. I think thatís a much better way, to grow with a controlled speed
instead of trying to push and get everybody out there and race, and at the end of
the day nobody would really be happy. So I think thatís absolutely OK and weíre
happy with the situation at the moment.
KM: So in many ways this is a return to the 956-962 procedure where the factory
ran a series of werks cars basically for a test year before turning them over to
HK: Very close to that. One thing that we should not forget is that todayís cars and
much more complex then they were 20 years ago. I would compare a GT3 RSR
today to a 911 GT1 of the 90s. I think thatís something we need to keep in mind
and also sometimes slow down the enthusiasm of people to get things
realistically set up before offering a new car.
KM: You raise a good point, because you canít necessarily stop progress and this
has always been a contention between Grand Amís philosophy versus the ALMS,
where in reality there is no such thing as cost effective racing, there is no cheap
entry. While, a GT3 Cup car is an extremely good bargain, do you think that in
some way weíve gone too far with the sophistication and the complexity of a race
car? Because, if todayís GT3 RSR is as complex as what a GT1 was, is that
something that is really needed?
HK: I would not say, in the way you might think about it at the moment. Modern
cars that you can see on public roads are much more complex compared to cars
20 years ago. The main content of the car then was mechanical. Today, there are
much more electronics involved. If you want to keep racing in that kind of way,
going after speed using modern car technology, you donít have the development
time like you do for street cars. So part of that is getting on the race track and
getting to know everything and getting to understand all the various systems. With
that, it would provide opportunities that we would definitely have to keep under
control. On one hand, that is what the Grand Am is trying to do. On the other hand,
I think this is car racing as opposed to more then just plain entertainment. We
have to keep trying to keep up with whatís going on with development with new
technologies. While we are focusing on these various levels of the motorsport
activities that we support, if you look at GT3 Cup car, this is still a car that is easy to
handle if you understand a little bit about cars. And thatís why we follow this one
philosophy with this one makeup where youíre not allowed to modify the car from
how it was delivered. So you have to learn to deal with the given level of
technology and I think that is the basics that everybody has to get used to before
accessing higher levels such as an RSR. Then there is more freedom to change
parts, to modify components. And yet, we have to make sure that it doesnít
become an unlimited thing because that would endanger all kinds of theories.
We donít want to get as far as what Formula 1 has become.
KM: Interesting response. Back to the complexity of the cars though, from
watching the performance of the Porsche powered Grand Am prototypes, it still
seems that the cars are somewhat at a disadvantage against the rest of the DP's.
Continuing on down to the GT class, you are running against by all accounts, a
pure race car that utilizes a tube frame. It is feasible to see somebody converting
a GT3 Cup car by tuning it down and actually almost being able to put it on the
street. No such category exists for the Pontiac which seems to have a clear
advantage as a true race car. Is this just something political that you just have to
feel you have to live with in the rules and do the best you can ?
HK: We have always placed this point clear to the Grand Am that we are definitely
not in favor of putting these cars in the GT category because we have always said
that GT class have to be close to production cars. I personally donít believe that
there was always the argument. There is something like a course advantage if
you do it with the tube frame cars. I personally believe that if someone was to
build his own race car, he should do that, but it shouldnít necessarily have to look
like a Pontiac. If a manufacturer is developing a car like that, why canít they use a
standard production chassis ? We also believe that if you can do something
properly, why shouldnít it be possible to get this car to the same performance as a
911? The 911 by itís context has some advantages that other cars donít have.
This is the point that we have openly discussed between Grand Am and they know
our point of view and we have to respect the manufacturers decision. We
definitely wouldnít like to see if people would design a few frames and put a 911
body over it.
KM: In that sense, Porsche is still the only company that offers a race car where
the tub itself comes directly from the production line. There isnít much that comes
from the production line at GM on the Pontiac.
HK: I personally think, at the end of the day, besides talking too much about it, as
long as itís fair in competition thereís no reason from our side to rethink our
situation in the Grand Am. But from my point of view, the concept in the GT racing
should always be a modified street car.
KM: I suppose that it will come down to how good Tony Dowe is with Porsche's
help at outsmarting the rest of the GT competition and the Pontiacs.
HK: ( laughing ) I look forward to the challenge. Thatís why we like our job.
KM: With Alex Job concentrating on Grand Am this year in the DP category, donít
you feel that his presence will be missed after so many years in the ALMS and
racing the RSR ? Conversely, Tafel Racing is competing in both series. If Tony
Dowe can pull it off, perhaps Job should have continued in both series or at least
in selected ALMS races?
HK: This is something we discussed with Alex last year. He still wanted to run in
both series this year. After that we would have to look at his options in the
organization and do something that he would want to do. Both series if possible.
We have to see if it will finally work and how they will set their priorities. But, yes
for sure. Itís always, to a certain degree, a shame to see somebody that was
doing a series for many, many years is now doing something else. On the other
hand, we work quite hard on getting new teams into the American Le Mans Series.
KM: Andrew Cotton recently interviewed Dr. Ulrich of Audi Motorsport, and Ulrich
made it absolutely clear that he has final say as to participate in the ALMS or
withdraw. He does not have to go back to the board. His complaints have been
well circulated in print and on the net. Now that there are approximately 11 cars
running in the LMP2 class, itís pretty much left LMP1 almost a hollow shell. There
has been some discussion of scrapping both classes and just running one LMP
group with equivalency formulas. Do you have any thoughts on that?
HK: I cannot comment on any potential decisions that Audi might make. Maybe I
will in the future. But with the concentration on the United States in the American
Le Mans Series ? The question would then be can we divide the series in the
future? We donít know if weíll have the same situation with LMP1 and LMP2 in the
future like with GT1 and GT2. From what I know we have only the two Corvettes. If
you think about the spectators that are not that much into all these class details.
They see prototype cars in P2 prototype Porsches and the Acuras. They would
see the two Audis, running their own race in P1 and thereís a huge group of
prototypes that really compete against each other and really provide the show.
And in GT racing itís really the same with the two Corvettes with their kind of own
race and kind of like between the LMP1 cars and the GT2 cars and other GT2 cars
mainly Porsches, Ferraris, Panoz and whatever. This is something vital to
spectators. So from that point of view, yes, there has to be a decision I think
somewhere how to generate a better mix. Or at least how to consolidate the four
categories from four classes into two categories.
KM: Youíve been with the company for how many years?
HK: Exactly 24 years.
KM: You realize with this being the new era, and with the exception of the
Footwork F1 project, the LMP2 powerplant is really Porscheís first successful,
normally aspirated race engine since 1974. Do you think there is a turbo version
of this engine in the future ?
Technically, itís not possible if itís a one-to-one additional turbo charger to this
engine. That wouldnít be strong enough. A lot from what we have learned with
this engine could be used to design a V8 Turbo engine. So perhaps. And yes, I
know how long it has been. ( laughing )
KM: See you at Sebring then.
HK: Yes, I will see you there. We are looking forward to the race.